What John sees in heaven before the seals are being opened, cont'd
Rev. 5:5 Then one of the elder's tells John not to weep because "behold the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof." (also if contemporary teaching that the 24 elders were the 24 elders of the church was correct, wouldn't one of the 24 elders certainly be the apostle John? Is John in heaven twice right now, as one of the 24 elders and as John the spectator that one of the elders is now speaking to?)
Rev. 5:6-10 tells us that suddenly now John sees "in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts and in the midst of the elders, a Lamb standing there as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." This is obviously Jesus having been slain as the Lamb of God. He, the Lamb of God, then took the book out of the right hand of God. Then the four beasts and 24 elders fell down before the Lamb and verses 9-10 says they sang a "new song", saying "thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth." If the elders are singing a new song now that the Lamb of God appears in heaven what was the old song? Perhaps the Song of Moses which would point to them being old testament elders. Also how could this be a "new song" for the church elders as the Church obviously could not have been singing a song before Jesus was the lamb of God because there was no Church or Church elders before Jesus was slain? See also Rev. 15:3, which speeks of those in heaven that sing both the song of Moses and the song of the Lamb. The song of Moses would obviously be the old song which was sung by the Isrealites and the song of the Lamb would therefore be the "new song" spoken of here. When they are singing about redeeming 'us' from all kindreds, tongues, peoples, and nations they are not necessarily singing that they, the elders, are from all of these, they are simply singing the song of the Lamb and the Lamb does redeem people from all kindreds, tongues, peoples and nations not just the Isrealites whereas the old song or song of Moses was a song that would have only been sung by the Isrealites and their descendents. The song of the Lamb would be sung by both Isrealite descendents who accept Jesus for salvation as well as gentiles that make up the "Church". Therefore the only people that would sing both the old and new song would be Isrealites (including of course Jews) that also accept Jesus as the Lamb of God.
Rev. 5:11-14 goes on to describe how thousands of angels surrounding the thrown, beasts and elders began saying worthy is the Lamb and they along with every creature God ever made were heard praising and glorifying Him that sitteth upon the throne and the Lamb. And the four beasts said Amen. And the 24 elders fell down and worshipped Him that liveth forever and ever.
Rev. chapter 6 is where the Lamb begins opening the seven seals on the book that He just took from the right hand of God. Notice as you read there is no space here, He begins opening them right after He takes the book. It doesn't say He held on to it a while or that He waited until the end of the church age to open the seals. He does so as soon as He appears at the right hand of God in heaven having been found worthy.
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